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    Tim Raines - Hall of Fame, 2009

    Tim Raines and his peers
    Go back into the time machine and see how his peers perceived him. And read the words of John McHale (RIP).


    Tim Raines is the only player in modern-day baseball eligible for the Hall of Fame with at least 1500 runs scored, but not enshrined. The previous record holder was Dwight Evans with 1470. Raines has obliterated that record, with 1571 runs scored. This is one record that Raines would prefer not to hold.

    Baseball is about runs, not hits.


    411 writers didn't vote for Raines
    Find out who they are


    Read our interview with the man himself.


    Congratulations to the recently-converted:
    Peter Gammons


    Best reasons to keep Raines out of The Hall
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    Worst reasons to keep Raines out of The Hall

    Raines' case was hurt by his reluctance to run in all situations, as Rickey Henderson did. Raines seemed at times too concerned about preserving his stolen-base percentage.
    Gerry Fraley

    The steals are a plus, but on non-contending teams you can run every time you get on base after the all-star break, as henderson did in 1982.
    Anonymous Hall of Fame voter

    COMMENT

    How are we supposed to appeal to these two voters? One says that Raines was too careful in stealing. The other says that he was running all the time when it didn't matter. And, neither offers any supporting evidence for their claims.

    The biggest debates for me were Tim Raines, who obviously was overshadowed by Rickey Henderson, but also if you take Vince Coleman's five top years, I would say he outperformed Raines, too, and I don't see Coleman as a Hall of Famer.
    Tracy Ringolsby

    FACT

    Just for fun, I took Coleman's 5 best years. They were hard to find, but I settled on this: 85, 87, 89, 90, 92. That totaled 2818 PA. (If you prefer different seasons, let me know. ) I looked for Raines worst years (which includes alot of abbreviated seasons) to match that total. I came up with these years: 79, 80, 82, 91, 94, 96, 98, 99, 02. The total of Raines' worst years was 2820 PA. Ok, so we have two partial careers of exactly the same length (in plate appearances), one for the guy at his best, and the other for the guy at his worst. Coleman outscored Raines, by 25 runs. Raines outRBIed Coleman by 78. Raines also did that while using up 99 less outs.

    The batting line:
    0.275 0.337 0.355 Coleman
    0.266 0.363 0.371 Raines

    Raines, at his very worst, is better than Coleman at his very best.

    As a player whose key Hall of Fame attribute was his speed, I want to examine a little further whether the use of a stimulant could have enhanced his performance whether he used it for that purpose or not.
    Dave Buscema

    COMMENT

    I look forward to his report. I'm not sure why Paul Molitor gets off so easily, while Tim Raines has to put up with this. How many players would voluntarily come forward at the age of 23, admit a problem, seek help, beat the problem in short order, and let the world know about it? And, as it so happens, Raines's worst season with the Expos (1982) coincided with his drug problem.

    I also look forward to his report of the thousands of players—who have taken actual stimulants, amphetamines (aka greenies)—some of whom are undoubtedly in the Hall of Fame, with nary a word.

    If he had dominated over a longer period, he would have received my vote.
    Mark Gonzales

    COMMENT

    A quote about Jim Rice? Nope, it's about Tim Raines. He voted for Rice: "Rice's credentials go well beyond his impressive numbers."

    Thanks to AJM for the quote.